You talk about the industry not being responsive enough to meet the targets that everyone's agreed on, but they certainly are very responsive in getting audiences with the government. I think we counted now 6,800 meetings with the Liberal government. That's like four meetings a day. That's pretty spectacular backroom access. I have not heard anybody from the Liberals talk about an emissions cap since the Prime Minister made the statement, so I'd like to get a clear picture from you.
You say a 60% reduction in levels of oil and gas by 2030 would be what we would need. What would this emissions cap actually look like to ensure it was something credible to the Canadian people?