My apologies, but $86 billion, about 15% of Canada's export value at this point in time, is in oil and gas. So that's $86 billion versus $5.5 billion 30 years ago. It is a very important part of our economy.
I'll contradict some of your witness friends around the table, including Mr. Leach, because we actually do have data from the Canadian government that show we've reduced carbon emissions from oil and gas emissions in the oil sands by 33% since 2000. Thirty-three per cent in 20 years is a pretty good reduction. We still have some carbon, obviously, in our oil and gas production, which we do need to reduce even further, and every one of us acknowledges that here.
In your estimation—