Evidence of meeting #27 for Natural Resources in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was infrastructure.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Chief Cindy Woodhouse-Nepinak  Assembly of First Nations
Reed  Strategic Advisor, Assembly of First Nations
Green-Stacey  Director of Economic Development, Assembly of First Nations

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

Yes, Mr. Chair.

I believe we had an agreement, so I don't know if I need to move an amendment that we remove “by himself” from the motion. We will support it if we can remove “by himself” so the CEO of Enbridge can come with the appropriate support from his company.

If Mrs. Stubbs is okay with that, we'd be okay with it.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

It's friendly.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Absolutely. Thank you. I appreciate that.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Okay. It's duly noted.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Hogan.

Corey Hogan Liberal Calgary Confederation, AB

I'm good.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Mr. Danko.

John-Paul Danko Liberal Hamilton West—Ancaster—Dundas, ON

Thank you, Chair.

I'm glad that we're going to have an opportunity to question Enbridge at committee. This is of particular interest for Hamilton, in my riding. There are two Enbridge pipelines that are of local interest.

Line 5, which goes from the U.S. Midwest through to Sarnia, is critical for Ontario's economy. It carries, I believe, fracked oil from the U.S. Midwest. Because it crosses the border, there is a substantial risk to Ontario's economy with ongoing tensions with the U.S. The other one is Line 9, which goes through Hamilton. It has been a source of environmental concerns for years. It's listed as a high risk for ruptures and has a history of leaks. There's local indigenous opposition.

I'm very interested to find out what Enbridge has to say about those two issues local to Ontario and to my riding. Hopefully, again, our intention is to move away from reliance on U.S. sources if there are better options.

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

We'll hear from Mrs. Stubbs, and then Mr. Waugh.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

No, I'll go after.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Mr. Waugh, I forgot to welcome you to the committee, the best committee on Parliament Hill, as you know. You are now part of it. Please go ahead.

4:50 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Waugh Conservative Saskatoon South, SK

I like this motion very much. I have met Gregory Ebel several times, mainly because Enbridge has been producing pipelines in my province of Saskatchewan.

This is an important pipeline to go through. I say that because not only does it affect our energy in Alberta and B.C., but I want people to know that we have a steel plant in Regina, Saskatchewan: Evraz. It produces 100% Canadian-made pipe. We have over 1,000 unionized workers at the Evraz plant on the north side of Regina.

I want committee members to know that Canadian Natural Resources' pulling out of an $8.25-billion commitment expansion last week has sent shockwaves through the industry. This is why we need Enbridge right now. CNRL's announcement that it's not going to proceed right now with its expansion is not good. We need jobs. As we've seen in Iran these days.... Canada has plenty of energy to share worldwide.

I think this motion to bring Mr. Ebel to committee to talk about Enbridge is good. They have spent a lot of money in this country, and I think they do need partners to move on with an Alberta and B.C. pipeline. I think this committee would be wise to hear from them.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Thank you, Mr. Waugh.

We'll go to Mr. Guay and then, hopefully, wrap up with Monsieur Simard.

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

Mr. Chair, I move that we vote on the motion.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Colleagues, I'm not sure we need a vote.

We had a friendly amendment accepted. Is that correct?

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Can I just make one final comment?

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

You can, quickly.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Thank you, colleagues.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

No, he called the vote.

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

I called the vote.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

If he called the vote, we can't—

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

No more speeches.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

We don't vote when we have consensus, but we'll just call the vote.

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

If we're all okay, we're all meeting.

4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Yes, I think we are all okay. I just wanted to say to John-Paul, thank you for your support and your willingness because, of course, it was the former Conservative government that did the Line 9B reversal in order to bring western resources to fuel the Pearson airport in Ontario and Quebec. It's also why Conservatives really urge the Liberals—

Claude Guay Liberal LaSalle—Émard—Verdun, QC

I have a point of order.