Evidence of meeting #3 for Natural Resources in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was project.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Lavoie  Assistant Deputy Minister, Nòkwewashk, Department of Natural Resources
Chan  Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Lands and Minerals Sector, Department of Natural Resources
Ghattas  Senior Director, Critical Minerals Centre of Excellence, Department of Natural Resources
Riley  CEO and Managing Director, Vital Metals
Valence  Vice President, Sustainability and Government Affairs, Commerce Resources Corp.
Fournier  President and CEO, Corem
Simard  General Manager, James Bay Joint Action Mining Committee

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Jonathan Rowe Conservative Terra Nova—The Peninsulas, NL

I mean for iron ore or any other critical minerals that would require mass amounts of energy, such as natural gas, to produce.

12:50 p.m.

General Manager, James Bay Joint Action Mining Committee

Régis Simard

As I mentioned earlier, the concept of the national northern transportation corridor includes more than just a rail line. It also includes a pipeline.

Building a national pipeline to export natural gas overseas requires social acceptability. That means it's important to make people understand that such a project would be very beneficial for industrial development, because some of the gas going through the pipeline could be used for the metallurgical processing of lithium or iron, for example. To produce high-quality cast iron, large quantities of natural gas are needed. It's the same with titanium and vanadium.

The opportunity to export natural gas is also an opportunity for industrial development through metallurgical processing close to the resource in northern Canada.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

You have time for a really quick question, Mr. Rowe.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Jonathan Rowe Conservative Terra Nova—The Peninsulas, NL

Do you think that if Bill C-69 was repealed it would increase mining investment in Canada and be able to increase the production of critical minerals?

September 25th, 2025 / 12:55 p.m.

General Manager, James Bay Joint Action Mining Committee

Régis Simard

Are you talking about Bill 69 on major projects?

Let's hope that will be the case. That said, in the context of that bill, people aren't aware of everything that a pipeline can represent. It isn't just about exporting. It's important to also explain to the public what an opportunity this represents for northern and industrial development.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Thank you.

Mr. Hogan is wrapping it up with two and a half minutes or less.

Corey Hogan Liberal Calgary Confederation, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you to our guests for being here.

I had a few questions on competitiveness, but my colleagues Mr. Martel and Mr. Guay have already asked questions about that.

You've identified challenges with current indigenous opportunity grants. What would your recommendations be to strengthen and foster stronger indigenous partnerships while meeting Canada's obligations, both moral and legal?

12:55 p.m.

CEO and Managing Director, Vital Metals

Lisa Riley

I'm a finance person, so I have thought about this extensively. I really appreciate the question. Thank you very much.

I think that there's a way of structuring a vehicle that would allow for indigenous investment. The risk would be shared by the company that had the equity investment and by the indigenous loan guarantee program. In a way, it would basically be like a preferred share.

This is going to be way too much detail, probably.

Corey Hogan Liberal Calgary Confederation, AB

That's great.

12:55 p.m.

CEO and Managing Director, Vital Metals

Lisa Riley

Oh, that's perfect.

There would be interest payments, let's call them, in the preferred share stage because a lot of the indigenous communities need to have periodic payments. The company would have to hold three years of rolling payments in escrow. After that, when the company was in a position to be able to pay out that same amount of interest payment, it would convert into a different class of ordinary equity that would pay out dividends first to those communities, equivalent to the interest payment. Then you've turned it into a lower-risk, pipeline-like investment. That, to my mind, is what I have been looking to do for a while.

Corey Hogan Liberal Calgary Confederation, AB

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Colleagues, let me, on your behalf, thank our amazing witnesses today.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Mr. Chair, I want to point out that most of the witnesses had very busy schedules. They agreed to come at the last minute. I'd like to sincerely thank them for that.

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Thank you.

That's exactly the sentiment I was going to express on our behalf.

You are our very first witnesses of the new parliamentary session. You've started us off in a good way. Some themes have emerged: the great opportunity, the barriers and the infrastructure needs. This puts us in a very good mindset for the rest of the study that I'm very excited about, and I know my colleagues are.

Let's hear it for our witnesses.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

The Chair Liberal Terry Duguid

Colleagues, we're going to go in camera. We need a few minutes to do that, so I will suspend.

[Proceedings continue in camera]