Most scientists who will be successful, people we have referred to here, will have at least three to four grants from CIHR, and then grants from the Alzheimer's Society of Canada. Often they will have some grants from the United States. To be able to properly run a lab in Canada, to be internationally competitive, you need maybe five of these grants, and all will have deadlines that are different during the year. So you spend a lot of time writing grant applications.
The success rate at CIHR at the moment in grant competitions is between 15% and 20%. Every time you submit, there is a likelihood that you will not get the grant, and the likelihood is much greater. That's challenging, and the success rate has been going down a bit over the years.
In the United States, it's even worse. There it's only 4% at the National Institute on Aging. A lot of scientists are spending a lot of time on that, so we need to change--