Evidence of meeting #36 for Official Languages in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was statistics.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean-Paul Perreault  President, Impératif français
Ilze Epners  President, Quebec English Literacy Alliance
Roderick MacLeod  Director, Quebec Protestant Education Research Project
Guy Rodgers  Executive Director, English Language Arts Network
Jean-Rodrigue Paré  Committee Researcher

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

That's the explanation.

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Committee Researcher

Jean-Rodrigue Paré

That corresponds to approximately 920,000 persons in Quebec, according to the 2001 census...

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

That was in 2001.

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Committee Researcher

Jean-Rodrigue Paré

...and to approximately the same percentage of Francophones outside Quebec, also according to the 2001 census.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

It's simply that I got lost at one point.

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Conservative

Le président Conservative Guy Lauzon

Then we'll continue with Ms. Boucher.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

I'd like to say that we've done a lot of work. Our committee has travelled. As my friend Mr. Godin said so well, we've travelled around, done a cross-Canada tour and heard a lot of evidence as well.

I'm an eternal optimist, and I think we're on the right track. The entire team here, whether it be one party or another, wants to move forward.

Our committee was set up to evaluate the Action Plan for Official Languages. Has the action plan worked? Has it not worked? First, I'd like to know, in your opinion, Ms. Epners, what the deficiencies of the plan were. Are you familiar with Bill S-3? What aspects of the plan should be improved, in your opinion?

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President, Quebec English Literacy Alliance

Ilze Epners

When you say action plan, what action plan are you referring to?

The action plan...?

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

We're talking about the Dion Plan. It was called the Dion Plan. There was Bill S-3 as well, wasn't there? Anglophones in Quebec aren't affected by that. Is that correct?

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Liberal

Raymond Simard Liberal Saint Boniface, MB

Literacy.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

In that case, Mr. Perreault...

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President, Impératif français

Jean-Paul Perreault

I have a comment to make. When you refer to the first official language spoken, you'll understand that we're not talking about the same statistics.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

No, no.

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President, Impératif français

Jean-Paul Perreault

Statistics Canada, as far as we're concerned, referred...

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

I merely wanted to tell you to what extent you can play with figures.

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President, Impératif français

Jean-Paul Perreault

Except, Ms. Boucher, that let's not play with the figures; let's draw the necessary conclusions.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

All right.

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President, Impératif français

Jean-Paul Perreault

The dominance of English is much greater based on your statistics than on those that I used...

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

That's not the question I asked. What I want to know is what you think of the action plan.

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President, Impératif français

Jean-Paul Perreault

... since my figures tell me that there are 591,000 Anglophones, based on mother tongue in Quebec, and that yours tell you that there 900,000.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Mr. Perreault...

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Guy Lauzon

Mr. Perreault—

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Mr. Perreault—

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Conservative

Le président Conservative Guy Lauzon

Mr. Perreault, I think Ms. Boucher wants an answer to her question.

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Conservative

Sylvie Boucher Conservative Beauport—Limoilou, QC

I want to know, because I work on this committee, what are the deficiencies of the action plan — if you're familiar with it — and what aspects of the plan should be improved.