Hold on a second, the clerk is trying to explain the procedure. Please, can we avoid multiple discussions? We already have enough work as it is. I'd ask you to show a little discipline.
I'll defer to my clerk's opinion. He's telling me that Mr. Bélanger is challenging the chair's ruling to hear the witness. So we'll put it to a vote. This is not debatable.
Is it the will of members of the committee that the ruling to hear the witness this morning be upheld? Those for? Those against?
(The chair's ruling is overturned)