We also heard people tell us that they're facing enormous challenges. It's also very hard for them to compete with the private sector for labour. One of the problems they encounter is the turnover rate. They often told us that this is a gateway for some people. If the people are good, they are happy, but they can't offer them more, and the turnover rate is enormous. That's what we also heard. It's a challenge. We would have to see what can be done in future.
In addition—and Mr. Lafontaine talked about this—they criticize the administrative red tape. They told us they spent a lot of time preparing reports and that they had few resources to prepare applications. So we were told that the government could lighten the load a little. Can you do better in that regard?