The minister is perhaps not the right person to have speak on the subject of Ontario because there are specific agreements. Departmental officials should explain them; then we will know exactly what to suggest.
Mr. Coderre's subamendment should be defeated. I know that he is absolutely adamant on inviting Ms. Verner. Mr. Chair, tell him he has a fixation on Ms. Verner. I do not believe that Ms. Verner is the one we should be inviting. We should invite senior departmental officials who can explain the agreement concluded between the federal government and Ontario. That is what we need.