It's ironic, Mr. Godin and Mr. Chong, that the 25% that comes on April 1 does not mean guaranteed funding for the year. It's 25% about which maybe three months later they would decide, sorry, you weren't supposed to get that. We don't know what it is 25% of, but we get the 25%. Then after three months we run out of that.
As for credit line possibilities within our smaller organizations, they just don't have the collateral, as Heather was explaining. When they come to ask us for the guarantee of continued funding, we can't say we got 25% because in the eyes of the government that is not official funding for the year. It's just an advance, and so we have to wait that extra two or three months.
We have four categories in our PCH funding. There are salaries; honoraria; travel, which is the smallest; and administration and office expenses. In administration and office expenses there is no category for interest on credit lines and credit cards, obviously, and so there is the other problem. Even if it's small numbers, how are you going to justify it?