Yes, there are. I could be an example. If I were unilingual English and had been hired in 1972, I could have come here and spoken to you in English only, unless I had taken language training and been successful. It is clear that there are people who began working in our organization, either at VIA Rail Canada or at CN, in 1972, in 1973 or in 1975, up until 1985, and who were hired under the former criteria.
As I said earlier, for reasons of equity, we could not fire these people because they were unilingual English. We developed, with the unions, training programs that would enable them to have access to higher-paying positions. However, they have to prove themselves. It is not enough to say, in French: "Bonjour, comment allez-vous". Some things must be said in a more sophisticated way, in a more detailed fashion.