Evidence of meeting #16 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was manitoba.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Ben Rempel  Assistant Deputy Minister, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba
Elizabeth Mills  Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia
Joëlle Désy  Nova Scotia Nominee Program Officer, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia
Colin Lemoine  Policy and Program Analyst, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba

10:05 a.m.

Policy and Program Analyst, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba

Colin Lemoine

We have one.

10:05 a.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

So that means $34,000 for the entire province. It is not very much.

10:05 a.m.

Policy and Program Analyst, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba

Colin Lemoine

It's only at the university level. There are also other programs in primary and secondary schools.

10:05 a.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

Can you give us some examples?

10:05 a.m.

Policy and Program Analyst, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba

Colin Lemoine

At the secondary and primary levels, they are mostly English programs.

10:05 a.m.

NDP

Claude Gravelle NDP Nickel Belt, ON

So they are programs in English.

10:05 a.m.

Policy and Program Analyst, Immigration Division, Department of Labour and Immigration, Government of Manitoba

Colin Lemoine

The francophones in schools don't have any problem learning French, and they are also going to learn English. It's fascinating. Their French doesn't really need a whole lot of improvement.

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you very much, Mr. Gravelle.

We've already reached the third round, and we are going to begin with Mr. Bélanger.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Merci.

Madam Mills, I want to explore this 9% versus 4%. When I asked if I was correct in believing that your objective for the francophone portion of immigration was 9%, you said no, it was 4%. Where I got that 9% was from a report that Madame Désy wrote, in which she said that

today—this is a document you signed, Madam—francophone immigration constitutes almost 9% of immigration in Nova Scotia.

That document was quoted in our paper.

10:10 a.m.

Nova Scotia Nominee Program Officer, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Joëlle Désy

Yes, that's true, but it is not an objective, not a target.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

What is the objective?

10:10 a.m.

Nova Scotia Nominee Program Officer, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Joëlle Désy

There aren't any in Nova Scotia as regards a percentage.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Do you intend to set one?

10:10 a.m.

Nova Scotia Nominee Program Officer, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Joëlle Désy

It's something we have discussed earlier. Ms. Mills could perhaps address that again.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Do you intend to have a percentage objective?

10:10 a.m.

Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Elizabeth Mills

No. At this point, we do not. We're still in the infancy of our immigration strategy overall. We are building our immigration strategy and building capacity within Nova Scotia.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I understand.

10:10 a.m.

Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Elizabeth Mills

In the same way, we are building our partnerships with the francophone communities.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

But if you're building a strategy, and therefore the infrastructure to make sure it materializes, do you not build such a strategy on objectives? Do you have overall objectives?

10:10 a.m.

Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Elizabeth Mills

We will have a new immigration strategy with overall objectives, yes.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

What would those overall objectives be?

10:10 a.m.

Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

Elizabeth Mills

The strategy is not yet released, and I don't want to pre-empt our minister,who will soon be releasing that strategy.

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

But there will be objectives?

10:10 a.m.

Executive Director, Office of Immigration, Government of Nova Scotia

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Within those objectives, will there be a percentage objective for the francophone element of immigration?