I would hope you'd agree it stands to reason that if indeed the objectives of your act are to be attained, it has to be measured in objectives that are higher than the current level.
And I would transpose that to immigration. If the percentage of the population is 4% and you realize yourself that you have a retention difficulty because you're still only at 60%, your objective, therefore, should be in the neighbourhood of the one in Manitoba, at 6% or 7%. Would you agree to that?