I'm going to try to answer your question, Mr. D'Amours. However, I would like to make a few preliminary remarks perhaps to summarize the essential aspects of my presentation.
With regard to the ministerial conference's role in the immigration issue, I see that somewhat as a three-legged stool. Here I'm borrowing the expression of Hubert Gauthier, whom you no doubt know very well. The three legs of that stool are as follows. There's intergovernmental cooperation, that is to say cooperation between the federal, provincial and territorial governments. There's intra-governmental or interministerial cooperation, that is to say the francophone affairs network, to which Daniel Cayen and I belong, and the immigration departments. The third leg or third element is significant participation by the community agencies of civil society in this matter. We play a role of leadership, influence, as a catalyst and ambassador to encourage our governments to advance and make progress on francophone immigration.
With respect to your question more specifically—