Evidence of meeting #17 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was brunswick.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Monique Drapeau-Miles  Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick
Guy Jourdain  Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie
Daniel Cayen  Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie
Mario Boisvert  Immigration Program Officer, Population Growth Secretariat, Government of New Brunswick

10:10 a.m.

Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

First, I want to point out that the conference, that is to say the elected members, the ministers, has never considered the specific question of targets or objectives. However, that's definitely something that could be brought to its attention. There could be a discussion, a debate—

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are you committing to that, Mr. Jourdain?

10:10 a.m.

Director Executive, Francophone Affairs Secretariat, Government of Manitoba, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Guy Jourdain

Yes, I can make that commitment this morning. We will bring that to the attention of conference members.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Excellent. I'm not asking for anything more.

Mr. Cayen, do you think that's possible in Ontario?

10:10 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Daniel Cayen

I can't speak on behalf of our Ministry of Civic Affairs and Immigration, but it's no doubt something Ontario would approve if it were brought to the conference's attention.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Mr. Cayen, If I understand correctly, you are at Ontario's office of Francophone Affairs.

10:10 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Daniel Cayen

That's correct.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

So you have a right of review over what goes on at the ministry.

10:10 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Daniel Cayen

We have a right of influence over the other departments, and for the board, this is an interesting notion to discuss with our Ministry of Civic Affairs and Immigration.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are you telling me you're committing to that as well?

10:10 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Daniel Cayen

I haven't made a firm commitment.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are you prepared to do so? Are you prepared to discuss it?

10:10 a.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Francophone Affairs, Government of Ontario, Ministerial Conference on the Canadian Francophonie

Daniel Cayen

Yes, I would be prepared to discuss it with my colleagues at Civic Affairs and Immigration, who moreover do a lot of things. The department has created an advisory committee on francophone immigration. So our ministry is making efforts.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

I'll come back to you in a minute, if I have any time.

Ms. Drapeau-Miles, I listened to your exchanges with my colleagues this morning and, if I understood correctly, we're talking about a target of one-third or of maintaining the balance. Does that translate into a specifically determined objective in a ministerial document, a government statement or some kind of administrative memorandum? Has that been made in writing somewhere?

10:15 a.m.

Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

You're asking me whether there's some sort of figure?

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

No, I'm talking about the balance that's been mentioned.

10:15 a.m.

Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

Yes, that's in our population growth strategy.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Is there a figure somewhere?

10:15 a.m.

Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I'll have to inquire.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are you committing to inserting a figure somewhere?

10:15 a.m.

Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I can't make a commitment for the government.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Give it a try.

10:15 a.m.

Executive Director, Population Support, Population Growth Secretariat, Department of Post-Secondary Education, Training and Labour, Government of New Brunswick

Monique Drapeau-Miles

I can do the follow-up and determine whether such a figure is in a specific document and I can send the answer to the clerk. I can make a commitment in that respect.

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

We'll await the result of your efforts.

I'll come back to Ontario, Mr. Cayen, with your permission.

How much time do I have left, Mr. Chairman?

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

You have 30 seconds left.