Evidence of meeting #44 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was dawson.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

André Bourcier  President, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon
Isabelle St-Gelais  Director, Garderie du petit cheval blanc, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon
Julie Leclerc  Board Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson
Sylvie Geoffroy  President, Espace France-Yukon
Martin Guilbeault  Chairman of the Board, Garderie du petit cheval blanc, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon
Lorraine Taillefer  Executive Director, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon
Marie-Ève Owen  Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

There is one minute left, but you will have a chance to ask questions during the next round.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Guy Lauzon Conservative Stormont—Dundas—South Glengarry, ON

That's fine; I'll come back.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

You will have a chance the next time.

Thank you very much, Mr. Galipeau.

We will now begin our second round, which will be five minutes. I would like to remind our witnesses that we are still suffering the effects of jet lag and that time seems to be catching up with us. We will try to keep it altogether, but I ask for your indulgence.

Mr. Bélanger, please.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I would like to ask a series of questions and gather some facts, simply to complete the picture we are attempting to put together today.

My question is addressed to Ms. St-Gelais or Mr. Guilbeault. With respect to the day care centres, how many names are there on your waiting lists?

8:15 p.m.

Director, Garderie du petit cheval blanc, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Isabelle St-Gelais

At this point, I believe there are about ten.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

What is the highest number of names that you have ever had?

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Director, Garderie du petit cheval blanc, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Isabelle St-Gelais

In the past, I couldn't say. However, I want to tell you something that I neglected to mention earlier. There are a lot of exogamous families and when we refuse to take their children, they immediately turn to the Anglophone community. We manage the only French-language day care centre in town, with the exception of a family day care. Once we run out of spots, families are not prepared to wait and immediately turn to an Anglophone day care.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

That was my next question. Do the Anglophone day cares also have waiting lists? You say there aren't any.

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Executive Director, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Lorraine Taillefer

There are several Francophone day cares--

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

No, I meant Anglophone.

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Executive Director, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Lorraine Taillefer

Pardon me; I meant to say there are several Anglophone day cares.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are they public or private?

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Executive Director, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Lorraine Taillefer

They are both.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

And there is room in them. Are they subsidized?

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Director, Garderie du petit cheval blanc, Commission scolaire francophone du Yukon

Isabelle St-Gelais

Some are, but it doesn't work the same way as in Quebec. Some do receive subsidies, yes. That is our case.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Let's talk about Dawson now. These questions are addressed to Ms. Leclerc or Ms. Owen. What is the size of the French-speaking population?

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Board Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

Julie Leclerc

About 1,380—very close to 1,400.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Francophones or Francophiles?

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Board Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

Julie Leclerc

In my opinion, Statistics Canada is not producing accurate figures. The centre has about 125 people on its list, which represents almost 10% of the population.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Are there French-language education services?

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Board Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

Julie Leclerc

There is a…

I will let the education expert answer that question.

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Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

Marie-Ève Owen

I was hired by the Ministry of Education three years ago to develop an enriched French program at the only school in Dawson, which provides both primary and secondary level education.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Is it an Anglophone school?

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Member, Centre de la Francophonie à Dawson

Marie-Ève Owen

It is an Anglophone school, but Francophone parents have been fighting for five years for an enriched program for their children. So, I developed an enriched program specifically for them. The first year, it was supported by the French-language school board, as it was in the second year as well. However, in the second year, we secured significant resources for our class, an attractive schedule and enough administrative support to allow for a major increase in the number of students. We began with seven students and ended up with 24. We had to start a waiting list. Then we were asked to cut back the program--

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

So, when the Yukon French Language School Board has full control over budgets and everything else, will you have your school?