Evidence of meeting #54 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was employees.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Richard Dicerni  Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
Bill James  Director General, Human Resources Branch, Department of Industry
Mitch Davies  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister and Champion of Official Languages, Science and Innovation Sector, Department of Industry
Liseanne Forand  Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada
Gina Rallis  Assistant Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Human Resources Services Branch, Service Canada

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Ms. Forand, I am talking about unilingual points of service.

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

There has been no change.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

I do not want to know whether there has been any change.

Ms. Forand, listen carefully. Suppose I were to go to a unilingual English designated office and ask to be served in French. Would I have to leave that office if I wanted bilingual service?

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

I wanted to make it clear that there was no change in the designation of unilingual or bilingual points of service.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Are there unilingual English offices, Ms. Forand?

I am going to start over with a third question. Are there unilingual English designated offices?

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

There are unilingual English designated offices.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Good, let's stop here.

Suppose I were to go to a unilingual English office. I ask a question and I want to be served in French. Would they call the RCMP to take me away because I want service in French?

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

If you ask to be served in French in a unilingual English office...

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

A Service Canada office.

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

... anywhere in Canada....

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Yes.

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

.... the agent will tell you that you are at a unilingual English office and will give you the opportunity to communicate then and there with Service Canada by phone.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

All right.

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

Or the agent will give you the opportunity to consult the Web site using the computer there and will give you information on the location of the nearest bilingual Service Canada office.

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Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

That means, Ms Forand, that I can get service in a unilingual English office. That is what you are telling me. If it is not face to face, it may be by telephone or by consulting the French Internet site. Is that what you are telling me?

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

That is right.

10:05 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Good, that is a bit clearer. It is reassuring to me.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

10:05 a.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mauril Bélanger

Thank you.

Mr. Godin.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Good morning, Ms. Forand.

On March 8, I asked you a question, whether the Atlantic provinces were a bilingual region. You answered that it was a unilingual region, with a bilingual province in it, New Brunswick. Do you agree with that?

10:10 a.m.

Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

I agree, that is what I said on March 8.

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Have you changed your mind since March 8?

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

Now, I would say that...

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NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

Ah, now, something has changed. I thought nothing has changed.

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Chief Operating Officer, Senior Associate Deputy Minister of the Department of Human Resources and Skills Development, Service Canada

Liseanne Forand

Absolutely nothing has changed.

Mr. Godin, I simply wanted to confirm that you were reading precisely what I said on March 8.

10:10 a.m.

NDP

Yvon Godin NDP Acadie—Bathurst, NB

I am reading exactly what you said.