Okay. But we don't have control over calling the meeting. It's the chair who calls the meeting. The chair calls the meeting, and when witnesses come here we want to be here, because he has called a meeting and we don't want a meeting to be called without the opposition.
But on the other hand, nothing is stopping you from being here. And nothing is stopping the chair from cancelling the meeting anyway. We saw that before.
This is not a motion that came in during a minority government. It was here 14 years ago. It was here in 1998, and I'm sure Mauril Bélanger remembers that. That was always the motion.
I have no problem with the five members. That's not where I have the problem, not at all. But I have a problem when you say and you put in a motion that the government has to be present, because automatically you just have to be present. It's just that we don't want a meeting to be cancelled when witnesses are coming in.