I alluded to that earlier on. ELAN, in particular, does a lot of national work. We spend a lot of time consulting about policy and programs. It is time consuming. Currently, our organization is not funded for that kind of work so we do it in our spare or volunteer time. We have very positive relationships with our federal bureaucrats. We find it well-invested time. Of course, some of the forms are a little time-consuming, and the reports, etc., can be streamlined. We find our relationship with our federal partners extremely beneficial.
We have tremendous problems within Quebec. If we had more time, I could tell you stories about trying to deal with Quebec City, not le Conseil des arts et des lettres du Québec, which is arms length and artist-driven; it's irreproachable. But as soon as we start dealing with the ministry of culture, some sort of mid-level bureaucrat who controls the doors, it's horrifying in some cases.
At least for the time we spend working on federal funding applications the outcome is normally positive and is a result that makes the effort worthwhile, compared to other places where we can devote our effort and have no results whatsoever.