You mentioned, Ms. Unger, that the second class of entrepreneurs that you receive are people who are frustrated with no job opportunities existing, so they create their own. We have to applaud those people, but we know that for entrepreneurs to survive, to keep their businesses afloat, they really do need certain characteristics. I'm sure you assist also with training them on how to adopt that mentality. I have a few questions surrounding that.
Was there a spike in clients for YES during the recession from 2008 to...? Well, there's some debate around whether it ever ended.