Right, and those organizations are also doing the same thing. We've had them at committee and they've talked about improving their efficiencies in the rollout of their programs. But given that even at the end of those exercises of increasing their efficiency they're still saying they need resources, wouldn't you recommend to the government, perhaps, in speaking for them, that they actually do need these financial resources to meet their needs?
On April 3rd, 2014. See this statement in context.