It becomes part of our management process. We have senior managers who regularly appear with the audit and evaluation committee. When there are audits and evaluations, there is a management response. Those become integrated into our proceedings.
We've been very fortunate with the outside members who are part of our audit and evaluation committee. There's a kind of ongoing discussion. I treat them really as if they were my board of directors. There's an ongoing dialogue with those external experts; I found it almost a quarterly seminar on governance that was very valuable for me.