Concerning the amendment, on the one hand, it's important to have more time. Point one calls for the ministers to appear for two hours in separate meetings. I'm not sure I understand what that means. For instance, I think we should get about two hours with the Minister of Immigration alone, because we've seen some strange things happening in that department. That would make perfect sense.
I'm being told that that's what the amendment provides for. Okay.
We heard from the Minister of Immigration's staff, and no explanations were forthcoming. Nearly 80% of francophone African students have their applications rejected, yet when they apply to go to an English-language university, they suddenly get accepted. There are a lot of weird things going on. Furthermore, this department sometimes refuses to comply with the Official Languages Act in Quebec. I once went to protest in front of IRB, the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada, because a lawyer was being denied the right to plead his client's case in French, as the client had requested. He came to testify here. That's a violation of not only Bill 101, but the Official Languages Act too. We were supposed to hear from Mr. Dionne's attorney.
That's what I have to say about point one—