Evidence of meeting #60 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was desruisseaux.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Olivier Jacques  Area Director, Latin America, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Alain Desruisseaux  Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Julie Boyer  Assistant Deputy Minister, Official Languages, Heritage and Regions, Department of Canadian Heritage

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

Do you mean the demographic weight of the communities?

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I'm talking about the demographic weight of francophones in Canada.

Has achieving our objectives maintained the demographic weight of francophones in Canada, that is, people who speak French?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

If we consider the admissions that were confirmed last year, and if we compare them to the statistical projections in terms of demographics, this result contributes to slowing the decline.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

It means that we're not breaking even. This result is not enough.

Is that it?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

That's right, it's not enough.

The demographic studies, including those commissioned by the Fédération des communautés francophones et acadienne du Canada, or FCFA, suggested much higher increases in admissions.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

They suggested a certain number per year in order to catch up.

You made a good presentation to the committee, and the picture was very bright. However, we know that more needs to be done. I'd like you to tell us more about the Centre for Innovation in Francophone Immigration in Dieppe, New Brunswick.

How long has it been open?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

The centre—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

That's a technical question—

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

Okay

The centre opened in November.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

How much money was invested in this centre before the renewal of the action plan for official languages in 2023?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

I don't have the exact figures, but these amounts were absorbed by the department while waiting for the investments made under the action plan.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Is it the Department of Citizenship and Immigration or the Department of Canadian Heritage?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

They have been absorbed by IRCC.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

How much money has been allocated to the centre for the next five years?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

An amount of $25 million has been allocated to this initiative.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Do you know how much money was invested before the action plan was adopted?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

It's marginal, because we're talking about operational costs.

The launch of the centre and the immediate priorities pointed to staffing. For us, it was really important to build the necessary platform to be ready as soon as the funding was confirmed.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Desruisseaux, how will the centre allow us to have more French-speaking immigrants quickly?

It should be remembered that today's study is about increasing francophone immigration. In what way will the Centre for Innovation in Francophone Immigration in Dieppe have a positive impact on the increase in francophone immigration in the Maritimes in the near future?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

The centre has a national mandate, but it will be one of many measures that will contribute—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

How will the centre contribute to it?

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

Essentially, it will promote new measures that will enable us to intensify our efforts to promote francophone immigration.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

So the measures aren't defined.

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

The measures are—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

So they haven't been defined yet.

4:30 p.m.

Director General, Francophone Immigration Policy and Official Languages Division, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Alain Desruisseaux

We're in the process of finalizing the terms of the programs.