Evidence of meeting #75 for Official Languages in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was anand.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Audrée Dallaire
Anita Anand  President of the Treasury Board
Carsten Quell  Executive Director, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer, Treasury Board Secretariat
Catherine Tait  President and Chief Executive Officer, CBC/Radio-Canada
Marco Dubé  Chief Transformation Officer and Executive Vice-President, People and Culture, CBC/Radio-Canada

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Good afternoon, everyone.

Welcome to the 75th meeting of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Official Languages.

As you can see, our committee chair is not here. Consequently, as the committee's first vice-chair, I will have the pleasure of chairing the meeting, and I therefore beg your indulgence.

As you are committee regulars here, I will spare you the instructions, unless you want to hear them. I would like to remind you, however, of one important point. Although this room is equipped with a good sound system, sound feedback may occur, which can be extremely harmful to interpreters and cause serious injury.

The most common cause of audio feedback is an earpiece being placed too close to a microphone. So we ask all participants to exercise great caution when handling their earpiece, especially when their microphone or that of the person sitting next to them is on.

In order to prevent incidents and to protect the hearing health of our esteemed interpreters, I ask participants to make sure that they speak into the microphone assigned to them and that they avoid holding their earpiece in their hands when it is not in use. The earpiece should be placed on the table, away from the microphone. Thank you for your attention to this instruction.

I would now like to welcome Mr. Stéphane Lauzon… Actually, he's not here at the moment.

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The Clerk of the Committee Ms. Audrée Dallaire

He's here, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Mr. Lauzon has just joined us, but I can't see him.

Mr. Lauzon, welcome to the Standing Committee on Official Languages. I know you aren't a regular member of this committee, but we are pleased to have you with us today. I am informed that Mr. Lauzon will do his connection test a little later. If there is a problem with sound quality, I will suspend so we can do a sound test.

Today it is our pleasure to welcome Mr. Quell. I unfortunately can't see his title.

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The Clerk

You'll see it it on the second page of your notes, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Thank you for your indulgence.

I would like to welcome the Hon. Anita Anand, President of the Treasury Board, and Carsten Quell, Executive Director, Official Languages Centre of Excellence, Office of the Chief Human Resources Officer.

Ms. Anand, you have the floor for five minutes.

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Anita Anand President of the Treasury Board

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Before starting, I want to recognize that we are meeting today on the unceded land of the Algonquin Anishinaabe people.

I am joined today by Carsten Quell, Executive Director of the Official Languages Centre of Excellence. I am delighted to be appearing for the first time before the committee as President of the Treasury Board. I want to acknowledge the important work that the committee is doing in defence of our official languages. I also want to thank you for your thorough review of Bill C‑13.

Bilingualism has always been one of my priorities since I was a child. I was born in Kentfield, Nova Scotia, to parents who had immigrated from India. My parents did not speak French, but they made sure that I learned both official languages. They did not do the same for my sisters, but I don't know why. I attended French immersion classes and learned the language at school.

It isn't just a good thing for a federal minister to be able to speak both official languages; it's also a responsibility that we take very seriously. My senior officials, like Mr. Quell, who is here with me, know that they can always choose to send me documents in English or in French and can also conduct briefing sessions in French. That's one of the reasons why I always tell my francophone staff, officials and colleagues that we can communicate in French if they so wish.

One of the most important aspects of my mandate is guaranteeing a fundamental right of all Canadians, the right to receive services from federal institutions in the official language of their choice.

As we all know, the modernized act expands the Treasury Board's role to include monitoring of the support provided for the vitality of the anglophone and francophone minority communities, the promotion of both official languages in Canadian society and the protection and promotion of the French language. It also confers on me, as President of the Treasury Board, a more prominent leadership role in implementing and administering the policy on official languages.

The modernized act also reinforces bilingual leadership in the public service. The deputy ministers and associate deputy ministers of the federal departments will now have to take mandatory language training, unless they are already bilingual, so that they can speak and understand both official languages.

Lastly, I would like to note that my department is also developing regulations that will provide us with a framework for ensuring that we comply with all sections of the act. I will be working on this file with Mr. Boissonnault and all concerned stakeholders. This is a priority, and since these important regulations will require extensive consultation, we will therefore take the time we need to do this work properly.

There has been no doubt in my mind, since I was a child, that it is extremely important to speak French, and that thought motivates me in the work I do every day.

My team and I will be happy to answer your questions.

Thank you very much.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Thank you, Ms. Anand.

I want to congratulate you on the quality of your French and to thank your parents for the efforts they have made.

Ms. Anand, since I am in the chair, I request the committee's unanimous consent to stay in my seat and use the six minutes allotted to me as a member of the Conservative Party of Canada to ask questions.

No one seems to be opposed to that.

Thank you, everyone.

Ms. Anand, I'm going to act as both judge and party here, but please be assured that I will remain impartial.

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Liberal

Darrell Samson Liberal Sackville—Preston—Chezzetcook, NS

I'll judge your impartiality.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

The clock starts now for six minutes.

Minister, the Parliamentary Budget Officer claims there isn't enough money for you to implement Bill C‑13, which became the new Official Languages Act this past June.

Will you be hiring a consulting firm, as the Treasury Board has previously done, so you can come up with the money by determining how we can eliminate a lot of consulting firms from the machinery of government?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

There are two elements here.

First, there's the expenditure review regarding the $15 billion. However, that's not the same as the official languages support programs.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

As I understand it, you're going to find the necessary money and you won't need to draw on external resources to come up with the money you need to implement the act.

Is that it?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

We definitely have the money we need for official languages.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Thank you, Ms. Anand.

The Parliamentary Budget Officer didn't say the same thing, but we'll take your word for it.

Do you think the demographic weight of francophones in Canada is declining?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

I'm responsible for implementing both parts of the act, for both anglophones and francophones. That's the role—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Pardon me for interrupting, Ms. Anand. As you know, my time is limited.

My question is simple: do you think, yes or no, that the demographic weight of francophones in Canada is declining?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

I'm talking about my responsibilities, and in my case—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

You don't want to venture an opinion.

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

My role is to support both official languages—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

But we aren't discussing that, madam.

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

—regardless of their situation. That's critical.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

All right. That's your answer, and I respect it.

My second question is as follows.

Is the demographic weight of Quebec francophones declining?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

As I said—

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

Is it the same answer?

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President of the Treasury Board

Anita Anand

—I'm responsible for both official languages, in Quebec and across the country. That's the job I have to do as President of the Treasury Board.

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Conservative

The Vice-Chair Conservative Joël Godin

You were appointed this past July. Have you met with representatives of the official language minority communities?