Evidence of meeting #18 for Official Languages in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was languages.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Marc Miller  Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture and Minister responsible for Official Languages
Rheault  Vice President, Government and Community Relations, Air Canada
Barbeau  Executive Vice President, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary, Air Canada

Guillaume Deschênes-Thériault Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Today's study is on the use of French in government communications and in federal institutions. How is the use of English in Montreal relevant?

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

Mr. Godin, what do you—

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

It's an introduction. Members need to give me a chance to get to what I'm saying, and then they'll see how it connects to the topic at hand.

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

And how does it connect, for those who haven't been paying attention?

What's the connection? We'd like to know what it is.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Mr. Chair, I simply want to know the minister's opinion on the situation regarding the French language in Montreal. Then I'll ask him why he opposed….

Listen, I won't reveal my questions ahead of time, but there is a connection, Mr. Chair. Trust me.

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

I trust you.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'll continue.

Mario Beaulieu Bloc La Pointe-de-l'Île, QC

If I may interject, if linguistic vitality is important outside Quebec, then it is also important in Quebec, especially in Montreal.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

What a wonderful display of solidarity over here.

This concludes the debate on the point of order.

How much time do I have left, Mr. Chair?

The Chair Liberal Yvan Baker

You have three and a half minutes.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Okay.

Actually, Minister, what I want to know is whether, in your opinion, the use of French is on the rise in Montreal. I turned my question around.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

You asked me another question earlier that I haven't answered yet.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

It's okay. There was a point of order. Let's forget about that one.

I turned my question around and asked you a new question about French.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

I would say that, since I was a little boy, the situation of French has improved in Montreal, thanks in part to Bill 101.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

When you were appointed, Minister, the Premier of Quebec called it a shameful appointment. Why is that?

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

Last I checked, I'm not the premier of Quebec. Odds are I'll never be. You would have to ask him that. He's actually a constituent in Île-des-Soeurs, in my riding, so I could ask him myself.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Now, Minister, I'd like to know how many anglophones and how many francophones there are in your riding.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

In my riding, roughly 40% of the population is francophone, 30% is anglophone and 30% is allophone.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Why did you oppose the official languages bill? You were one of four MPs, along with Marc Garneau, Anthony Housefather and Emmanuella Lambropoulos, who stood against your own government and Mélanie Joly, who presented the white paper on official languages.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

First of all, that is not true. I was a minister and I voted for that bill, which I supported.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I have an article, Minister, that tells me otherwise.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

Fine, you have an article. Congratulations.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I understand that you were following ministerial instructions. I can understand that.

Marc Miller Liberal Ville-Marie—Le Sud-Ouest—Île-des-Soeurs, QC

No. I would like to clarify something because it is very important. As you were a member of this committee, you'll recall that it was dominated by the Bloc Québécois and the Conservatives. I didn't necessarily want to leave the overhaul of this legislation to people whom I may respect, but who are not in government. So I wanted—

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Joël Godin Conservative Saint-Augustin—Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Minister, I'm going to stop you right there—