There's just one other point I want to follow up, and then I'll let other people go at it.
It's the tenure of deputy ministers. We had the last deputy minister from Indian Affairs in and we put this to him. It's not really within his power how long he can stay in the department. Other people control his future, but I think everybody who's had anything to do with that department agrees that we should have some continuity in the management of that department.
Do any of you gentlemen have any suggestions about how, in a systematic way, we can get something like this in place so that the executive branch cannot just switch them into another department and move them around?