There's a working relationship that has to be effective in order for the government's policies to be able to move forward.
What Mr. Wouters was mentioning was that the deputy could be a very able and seasoned deputy, and the minister could be a very able and experienced minister, but they just can't work together. There are some conflicts. It happens in all workplaces. A CEO and the chairman of the board could simply not agree and not work together effectively. That happens, and that's one reason there may be a need for a change.