So back to my original question. We find problematic departments with turnover every six months, and you were saying things happen. What we find is that when things are happening in departments that should not be happening, or are not happening but should be happening, we end up with deputy ministers in front of us who shrug and say they've only been there six months. Then six months later, once again we're facing someone who's saying that he or she has only been there six months.
So fundamentally you're saying that the Prime Minister is the one we should be calling in front of us, since there doesn't seem to be any accountability from the deputy minister, because the turnover is so rapid.
When you were a deputy minister, how often did you disagree with your ministers? What were the different ways your political masters had of dealing with that?