That's a big question. I will try to be as precise as possible. From the government's point of view.... The reason you're not getting any answers from Public Works as to why 7,200 files per year instead of 30,000, or whatever the number should have been, is that they didn't have the numbers. The obvious question is, then, why didn't they have the numbers? The numbers were available, as the Auditor General found out.
There isn't a relocation management company in this country or in North America that I'm aware of that couldn't produce those numbers with the push of a button, including Royal LePage, who apparently have a $24 million computer system specifically designed for the management of relocation files.
The reason you're getting blank stares is that there is no answer. They should have had that information. I would not accept the answer in our company that the information wasn't available. DND had the information; Treasury Board had the information; the RCMP had the information. For them to say they didn't have the information tells you that you have a serious problem somewhere in your processes and in the management of this program.
From a government point of view, you have to start looking there. There is no reason in the world why they shouldn't have had that information.
When you look at all the other things, the total weight of all of the coincidental and seemingly innocent things that happened—such as the close relationship between Mr. Bélair and the people who were working on the 2002 bid—
And you can say what you want, but the issue of going on a cruise in the Caribbean has nothing to do with who paid for it or who was there. The issue is that obviously Mr. Bélair and Ms. Douglas had a relationship outside of work that included socializing, to a level that their families vacationed together. Where I come from—and I've been on Caribbean cruises with groups of people myself—that makes for a pretty close relationship.
What happened in Ottawa the rest of the year? Did Ms. Douglas go over to Mr. Bélair's house for a barbecue on Saturday afternoon? I don't know.