Thank you, Chair.
I'm still troubled by this business of whether or not a criminal investigation was actually started, because to me it speaks not only to the credibility of two key players in all of this, but also to whether it addresses the issue of the alleged cover-up.
If there was direction given and then it was changed—and the former commissioner is saying that's not what happened—then we have some bigger problems here. If not, then Mr. Lewis's testimony has to be questioned. One of you has to be questioned. It cannot be that you had a meeting and came out of there and a staff sergeant started a criminal investigation.
So my question would be to Mr. Zaccardelli. You said that somebody—you forget who—told you that Staff Sergeant Lewis was telling authorities in the RCMP that you were authorizing a criminal investigation. Given the time I was with the police community—
You're saying no. Well, let me finish my question, and you can clarify it, sir.
Given my time in the police community, insubordination is huge. It seems to me that if a staff sergeant came into a commissioner's office, had a meeting, and walked out of there and said, “The commissioner wants”--and then whatever you say after that--“done”, and if it's not true, then the commissioner—you, as that commissioner—upon finding out about a staff sergeant who was starting a criminal investigation saying you wanted it when you didn't, would take action, I would think.
I'm curious as to why you didn't, Mr. Zaccardelli.