Mr. Zaccardelli pounded on the desk and said, “Why are these officers not coming to me?” I said, “The reason for that is that you treat them poorly when they come forward. As a result, I will not give you documents until you appoint an officer. They will all come forward at once, not individually, because as they come forward they get punished. And Fraser Macaulay is a good example.”
So the same thing happened. I had learned my lesson two years earlier, so when I went to him in May 2003, I said I would provide the documents when a proper investigation was official. It was official, because he told me. I have it in two documents to him that I went to Gessie Clément, the commanding officer of A Division, and had an investigation started. But I didn't find out until three weeks later that Mr. Zaccardelli had stopped the investigation. I found out on Saturday the exact dates. He stopped on the 25th of....
So the whole problem was that nobody would come forward, and I couldn't identify anybody until there was an official investigation going on, but he kept stopping them or would not have them go forward.