Perhaps I'll come back to Mr. Wiersema later. Now, if this situation arose in the private sector, it's my understanding that if the chief executive officer and the chief financial officer got into a dispute they would bring in the external auditor, and that external auditor would be part of the meeting and his or her view would carry the day, I would think.
I take it that the way the government operates it wouldn't be a normal practice to bring in someone from the Auditor General's office to a meeting like this to get an opinion. Am I right in that?