The first time was on August 21, as I was leaving. That was at 5 p.m. in Deputy Commissioner Barb George's office. At that time, she was still assistant commissioner. I was being removed because of the fact that I had not delivered on HRMIS and the way I handled the complaint against Dominic Crupi. Then-Assistant Commissioner George advised me that I should not have taken it to the level that I had, and then she added that I sat on the information too long.
This “sat on the information too long” has haunted me for three and a half years. Monday, Commissioner Zaccardelli said it was a year and a half. I have my employment record, to table with you today. It will show you that if I knew for a year and a half, I knew the day I arrived into my new job in HR as the chief superintendent. I arrived there exactly seventeen months before I was in his office. On the year and a half, even now that the whole investigation is all done and we are now in 2007, there is nobody who can tell me or demonstrate to me how it's even possible that I knew ahead of that time.
I knew on May 28, and even then I didn't really know on May 28. On May 28, I received a phone call from Jim Ewanovich, who had been visited by Assistant Commissioner Spice and Ron Lewis in regard to his behaviour. He was upset that they had accused him of some things, and Jim felt I was one of the officers who was informing Ron as to his behaviour. It just doesn't make any sense.
From there, I came back and I spoke to Denise Revine, who was doing the A-base. If you look at the allegations on June 17, they are written by Denise Revine, in consultation with me. I knew nothing before that time.
Nobody has put forward any evidence that I knew before that time. During my conversations with these folks to try to even correct it once it was told to me, I explained and then started to find out things, such as the fact that it had come to the attention of the RCMP in 2002, and that the HR folks had actually built a form on which you had to tick off whether or not the person you were now hiring was in your family. They built an HR form in 2002. That is not where I was, and it was unbeknownst to me.