Okay.
That I find very interesting and very difficult to believe. I think you will allow me to be skeptical.
I'd like to talk about some of the contracting that went on in the compensation policy centre. Last meeting I brought with me this KPMG report, Mr. Frizzell, which demonstrates that in one case we have an individual, Mr. Crupi, who gave a contract to Consulting and Audit Canada, which then gave a contract to Abotech, another company, in order to give the contract to a Mr. Onischuk to write policies on contracting. In other words, every one of these people I've just described took a cut of the cake as they went down the line. It's like I take the contract here and I take a piece of the pie and I pass it to my friend, who then takes a piece of the pie; he passes it to his friend, and it gets down to the very end, where Mr. Williams has it. And now he has my document, and he won't want to be touching that document because it's a contract for which you've just been paid, even though you've done absolutely nothing in the way of work. That's what this audit reveals.
Were you finding these kinds of practices in that branch?