I can recall having a conversation. She was declared surplus. She received her letter in April, and that was based on a budget decision. That's the information I had at that time.
I can recall a conversation down the road that I had with a peer of mine, a director general in human resources, Assistant Commissioner Kevin Mole, and I asked him if he had meaningful work for Denise Revine--she was a PE-6, director level--and if he did, would he please contact her directly and make arrangements as soon as possible. And he did, to the best of my knowledge, do that.
So I did have that conversation with him, but it was a couple of months later.