Chair, while I'm at it, we have a session that's devoted to this audit and the contracting, which I think Fraser Macaulay rightfully brought to the attention of the authorities, he and Staff Sergeant Frizzell. I think it's absolutely imperative that we have the manager of this KPMG audit at that meeting. He's like the Auditor General on things, and we have to have that person here when we do that.
I have a question for Mr. Loeppky. We heard Mr. Roy, the inspector on this thing, acknowledge that he had worked very closely with Barbara George and Rosalie Burton; that he had been seconded from the Ottawa police department into the RCMP and worked pretty closely with these people.
Now, I'm looking back here, and a lot of people are asking this question. There were 15 people involved in the investigation on an ongoing basis. Two of them are from the Ottawa police department, one of whom is the chief, and he has a lot of things to do, so he won't have his hands on this thing. The other one is Mr. Roy. Everybody else is RCMP, and it's on RCMP property, and so on.
Is this what you would call an independent investigation, from an outward appearance?