I was in Ottawa at the same meeting ex-Deputy Commissioner Loeppky was at when the commissioner spoke with Jim Ewanovich about stepping down from his role because of the pension investigation.
Up to that point in time, I was blissfully unaware that there had been this kind of controversy and those kinds of things going on. I was quite aghast and very surprised about it, having not heard previously that this issue was under audit investigation, and about the other things that were happening.