They agree with that fact. Typically, Foreign Affairs have brought people in at an entry level, and they have sort of come up through the ranks. There was an effort about a year and a half ago to bring people in laterally. That was challenged and went to the Federal Court. There was a conclusion that they hadn't sufficiently consulted with the unions on this.
They are attempting these sort of ad hoc measures, but we're saying they really don't have the kind of strategic human resource planning to know how they are going to deal with this. As you mentioned, 58% of the management category is eligible to retire, but so is 26% of the whole department