Well, I think they get the tenor.
Mr. Chair, I find this totally unacceptable. I'm glad you led with the comments you did, but I want to tell you, to my mind and I hope to the minds of others, I don't think we should have this meeting until that deputy is here.
At the end of the day, there are only two people you can hold accountable in a ministry: the minister and the deputy minister. There are two different processes. Today it's to bring in the deputy on an issue of this importance, with all the ongoing problems; and now we're told, oh, there's a meeting that's more important? I don't think so, and I'm not prepared to continue until we have somebody here who can be held accountable for what's going on in that ministry.