Mr. Gauvin said in testimony here, Mr. Crupi, that in regard to the 45 contracts--the rigged contracts, the rigged bidding, to use Mr. Marshall's and also the auditor's terminology--he didn't have any knowledge of that. He was right out of the loop. He took away your financial abilities to have anything to do with contracting and so on, but he was totally in the dark. He didn't realize this was going on.
Do you have any comments on that? Mr. Gauvin surely, as chief financial officer, must have had some knowledge about these contracts--