I'm sorry to interrupt here, but I want to clarify one small topic.
When Mr. Williams was questioning Mr. Brazeau a short time ago, Mr. Brazeau said a couple of times that these were the rules in CAC, and this was how they did business.
It's true that CAC was a special operating agency, but all government contracting is done under the government contract regulations or Treasury Board policy. The policy states, among other things, “that government contracting shall be conducted in a manner that will stand the test of public scrutiny in matters of prudence and probity; facilitate access; encourage competition; and reflect fairness in the spending of public funds”. There was no exemption from that policy for CAC or anybody in CAC.