Okay, I hear you.
Let me ask you this question. You were asked to what extent there was ongoing political direction in the program. You said, “There is quite a bit of difference between political interference and political input... And to say that they interfered--i.e. with the selection of agencies--never. I would not let them do that, because ministers are not to interfere with the selection process.”
Let me finish. You, sir, made sure that we used the term “qualifying agencies”. You don't mention anything about qualifying here. You just say it's in the selection.