No, Mr. Williams, you're absolutely correct. That meeting took place. It was July 8, 2002. It was held in camera in the West Block. He was under oath to tell the truth and the whole truth at that time. There was no oath of secrecy, but it was in camera because of other proceedings. Of course, at a later date, the in camera restriction was lifted.
So Mr. Guité, I will allow you to explain what you mean. I can see where you might be using the term “secrecy” because of in camera, but I hope you're not suggesting to this committee that you weren't telling the truth at the July 2002 meeting because it was in camera.