They were aware too. There are 2,732 responsibility centres in the organization, and when he went—we didn't send him; he went to Public Works—we expected them to do the job. We didn't expect that they would collude and do what they did, because CAC is also an organization. There are other people in that organization who should also have been managing the organization, so somewhere something went awry, and basically we ended up with a collusion case.
On June 11th, 2007. See this statement in context.