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Mr. Gauvin, you were the CFO of the organization, and if I heard you correctly, your quote directly was that “we did not know what was going on in regards to what was happening with Mr. Crupi”. And you were the CFO. How can you explain, as the CFO, that you wouldn't know what was going on? You're supposed to be tracking the money being spent in the organization. This man had $5,000 spending authority and spent $6 million. How could you possibly not know?