The answer is, basically, I asked Mr. Gauvin if one of the reasons he didn't act on the report that he received from Surintendent Lincourt at the time was that he was new to the RCMP and that he was too busy to act on the report. He said no, under no consideration, that it had nothing to do with that. And he didn't act.
I went and asked him twice the same question on two different occasions. He didn't want to take any responsibility for what had happened, what had brought the criminal investigation onto the RCMP. The reason was basically that he didn't act. What he should have done at that point was to call for an internal investigation, call for a criminal investigation. He didn't act on it until such time as Mr. Rogerson came into a meeting and confronted him with this issue.