You also stated you thought we had gotten good value from working with this outsourcing with Morneau Sobeco. You also stated that if you had done it in Public Works, it would have probably cost you $70 million.
The difficulty I'm having with a lot of your answers, sir, is that you say you're not involved in procurement and you're not a procurement expert, but it seems to me that you've just offered the opinion of an expert on the cost of procurement here.