The next question is one that I want clarification on, and I want your response to it too.
Mr. Gauvin has told this committee that he took away your contracting power and he also even had a supervisor in there. The way I understand it, he says that you got seconded into Public Works Canada and these $6 million worth of contracts that went out to Abotech and Casey Computers and so on, these were all things that were done entirely under your watch through Public Works Canada, and he knew nothing about that.
I think you've mentioned before that you would have thought Mr. Gauvin would have known something about that. I'd like to get your thoughts on that matter today. Would Mr. Gauvin have known about your activities in being involved in the awarding of these contracts?