But Mr. Drouin, you can't have it both ways. These are Mr. Gladu's words. So who is not forthcoming here? Is it Mr. Gladu or yourself? This is testimony that was given here, transcribed here, and I'm reading it back to you and you're saying that he said something entirely different. So are you saying that he lied to the committee?
On June 13th, 2007. See this statement in context.